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dm383
10-18-2003, 03:27 PM
Ned City (http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/index2.html)


I only found out about this yesterday, and I haven't "done it" all yet... but it's quite amusing, I think!! :D

DM

jseal
10-18-2003, 04:05 PM
dm383,

While I cannot criticize the author on his candor, I do have a suggestion or two in re using a spell-checking tool.

That being said, this is one of the positive features of the web; that anyone with the desire can, for a very modest sum, be heard. Very egalitarian.

celticangel
10-18-2003, 04:44 PM
tried using a spell check on Glasgow slang/ Old Scots/ Aberdonian etc etc etc~~~~~~it overheats and gives in!!!!~~~~~~~~~don't let wee issues spoil the fun!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"hodyerwhishtyanumpty" as one example of parliamoglasgow as made famous by Stanley Baxter!!!~~~proves the point!

Glyndwr
10-18-2003, 06:47 PM
Hi dm

At least the author isn't trying to deceive the niave tourist ~lol~

"Glasgow is smiles better"

jseal
10-18-2003, 08:33 PM
Gentlefolk,

All right, all right.

I defer to the Glaswegians - or Glaswegian wannabes.

But I still think the author should have used a spell-checking tool. "buckfast"? Now please don't claim that that is part of the local dialect!

dm383
10-18-2003, 10:46 PM
"buckfast"? Now please don't claim that that is part of the local dialect!


Well, actually.....


It IS!! Not strictly speaking a "slang" term, it is actually a Tonic wine which is made by Benedictine monks at Buckfast Abbey, near Exeter in Devon, England. It has a high Alcohol content, and (probably for that very reason) is the drink of choice for neds, as well as other folks with a less than discerning palate!! I've tried it, and I think it's "minging" (horrible) but, each to their own! Commonly known as "Bucky" in Glasgow!


Here's a link:
Bucky! (http://www.bawbag.com/buckfast.php)


DM

dicksbro
10-19-2003, 05:08 AM
DM, you are just a wealth of interesting facts and information. :D

jseal
10-19-2003, 07:06 AM
dm383,

"Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor", eh? Wicked! Perhaps that was included among the reasons Henry VIII suppressed the monasteries.

Oldfart
10-19-2003, 01:11 PM
jseal,

This slavish attention to spelling is a relatively modern phenomenon.

The coming of cheap printed books brought this rush to

standardisation, but Shakespeare, Bacon and Chaucer would

have laughed at the idea of rigid spelling.

Sometimes spelling was nudged to help a line in a poem

and sometimes it was just what came to mind at the time.

jseal
10-19-2003, 04:33 PM
Oldfart,

The implication that correct spelling is an affectation is preposterous nonsense. The purpose of language is to communicate, and the written word communicates best when both the author and the gentle reader share a common vocabulary.

As the text in question is a web site, published in the twenty-first century, it would seem to qualify as being "relatively modern". It is also not poetry (even modern), and so one has little intellectual basis of extending the notion of poetic license to cover oddities.

In addition, capitalization on the page is inconsistent; does that fall under the same whimsical preference notion that covers incorrect spelling?

I note with amusement that you misspelled standardization, or was that done intentionally merely to prove your point? Additionally, may I inquire to what "rush" you are referring? Inexpensive books have been generally available for a couple of hundred years now.

As you use Geoffrey Chaucer as an example of an author who "would have laughed at the idea of rigid spelling", and as I happen to have the "Troilus and Criseyde" and "Caunterbury Tales" in the Middle English, perhaps you and I could review off-line exactly where that author makes light of his spelling. Both of these works are poems, and terribly old, so I am certain that you’ll be able to bring my slavish modern notions to a greater sensitivity of the written word.

I look forward to your prompt PM.

dm383
10-19-2003, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by jseal


I note with amusement that you misspelled standardization, or was that done intentionally merely to prove your point?


Gotta remember jseal, Oldfart is from Australia, where they use PROPER English!! WE use S's where you guys use Z's !! :D

DM


BTW..... the point of that site, from the guy who posted it (guess who??) was...... it's FUNNY! Never mind about spelling, captitalisation or anything else.... it's FUNNY!! Get it?!?!?! :P

DM

jseal
10-19-2003, 07:34 PM
dm383,

Sorry, can’t say as I agree with you.

I think that the site is a real attempt to show another, rather intimate, vision of Glasgow, illustrated by a resident. A glimpse of domestic, "under the stairs" Glasgow, which won’t be shown by the tourist board.

The winos with their Buckfast, the leather shops at Trongate, the harsh East Germanesque style of the Underground, suggest a rather bleak vision that a local might have of his surroundings. Again, not what the politicians would like on display. Somewhat subversive and anti-establishment.

Funny? No not really. Earthy, critical, in your face? Yes, that’s how this site appears to me. Not a dystopia perhaps, but it brought few chuckles to me.

But it is marred. Look at the ill-fitting frames around the pics off the Sights page. Follow the News link on the first page and you’ll see more mal-formed text. Additionally, it is questionable design technique to italicize small point text. As the next web site is only a mouse-click away, it is injudicious to jar your visitors’ eyes.

Still, unto each his own. If you find the site funny, then, by golly, it is funny.

celticangel
10-21-2003, 05:03 PM
well~~~~~funny, sad, pathetic, steriotypical~~whatever it means to you~~~~~~it is a worthy representation of one small part of our largest city~~~~~~~~~~but as my grannie (grand mother) used to say "if ye didnae laugh ye'd greet!!!!" (if you did not laugh , you would cry!)