Political Public Announcement

[Irish]

The following celebrities have betrayed America during its time of need
and are on a boycott list being circulated...
Their products will not be purchased, we will support them no longer!

from www.webster.com :
One entry found for betray.
Main Entry: be·tray
Pronunciation: bi-'trA
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from be- + trayen to betray, from Old French traïr, from Latin tradere

Date: 13th century
*3 : to fail or desert especially in time of need (our preferred definition)



1. Martin Sheen
"George W Bush is a moron"
2. Alec Baldwin
would leave the country if Bush were elected president
3. Jessica Lange
"I despise him (GW Bush)"
4. Sean Penn
“(Bush) seems to be willing to sacrifice the children of the world.”
5. Susan Sarandon
"We stand a chance of getting a president who has probably killed more people before he gets into office than any president in the history of the United States."
6. Ed Harris
"we’ve got this guy in the White House who thinks he is a man"
7. Woody Harrelson
“This is a racist and imperialist war"
8. John Cusak
"The war and repression that has been loosed on the world by the Bush administration"
9. Mike Farrell
"Our leaders in Washington are out of step with millions of Americans. Inspections Work. War Won't"
10. Robert Altman
"This resent government in America I just find disgusting"
11. George Clooney
"Bush is a warmonger who wants to invade Iraq."
12. Barbara Streisand
"How could such a destructive man be so popular with the American people?"
13. Tyne Daley anti-war agitator
14. Ed Asner anti-war agitator
15. Bradley Whitford Artists for Winning Without War Signee
16. Danny Glover
condemned President Bush and "his administration of liars and murderers."
17. Casey Kasem Artists for Winning Without War Signee
18. Sally Kirkland Artists for Winning Without War Signee
19. Oliver Stone NION Signee
20. Sheryl Crowe
"I think war is based in greed"
21. Michael Moore Waging battle to smear Pres. Bush
"the (9-11)passengers were scaredy-cats because they were mostly white"
22. Harry Belafonte Called Colin Powell an "Uncle Tom"
23. Jane Fonda Need we say more?
24. Tim Robbins
"we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred"
25. Kevin Spacey
"If we did what [Bush] is talking about doing, we'd go down a road from which we would never recover and which would start a chain reaction around the world. I live in the hope that it won't happen."
26. Joan Cusak anti-war agitator
27. Gillian Anderson Artists for Winning Without War Signee
28. Kim Basinger Artists for Winning Without War Signee
29. Jennifer Aniston
"Bush is a f#cking idiot"
30. Jackson Browne Artists for Winning Without War Signee
31. (REM)Peter Buck and Michael Stipe Artists for Winning Without War
32. Ed Norton
"I hope the world community will continue to voice itself and apply pressure on the U.S. government"
33. Don Cheadle Artists for Winning Without War Signee
34. Jill Clayburgh Artists for Winning Without War Signee
35. Peter Coyote Artists for Winning Without War Signee
36. Kevin Bacon NION Signee
37. Matt Damon Artists for Winning Without War Signee
38. Vincent D’Onofrio Artists for Winning Without War Signee
39. David Duchovny Artists for Winning Without War Signee
40. Olympia Dukakis Artists for Winning Without War Signee
41. Charles S. Dutton Artists for Winning Without War Signee
42. Hector Elizondo Artists for Winning Without War Signee
43. Cary Elwes Artists for Winning Without War Signee
44. Mia Farrow Artists for Winning Without War Signee
45. Laurence Fishburne Artists for Winning Without War Signee
46. Chevy Chase Bush Basher
47 F. Murray Abraham NION Signee
48. Janeane Garafalo
"Our country is founded on a sham"
49. Melissa Gilbert Artists for Winning Without War Signee
50. Elliott Gould Artists for Winning Without War Signee
51. Robert Guillaume Artists for Winning Without War Signee
52. Ethan Hawke Artists for Winning Without War Signee
53. Eric Roberts
Considers the president "fascist" and a co-conspirator (with Osama bin Laden)
54. Helen Hunt Artists for Winning Without War Signee
55. Anjelica Huston Artists for Winning Without War Signee
56. Samuel L. Jackson Artists for Winning Without War Signee
57. Jane Kaczmarek Artists for Winning Without War Signee
58. Melina Kanakaredes Artists for Winning Without War Signee
59. Tea Leoni Artists for Winning Without War Signee
60. Wendie Malick Artists for Winning Without War Signee
61. Camryn Manheim Artists for Winning Without War Signee
62. Marsha Mason Artists for Winning Without War Signee
63. Natalie Merchant Musicians United to Win without War Signee
64. Dave Matthews Artists for Winning Without War Signee
65. Esai Morales Artists for Winning Without War Signee
66. Ed O'’Neill Artists for Winning Without War Signee
67. Chris Noth Artists for Winning Without War Signee
68. Alexandra Paul Artists for Winning Without War Signee
69. CCH Pounder Artists for Winning Without War Signee
70. Bonnie Raitt Artists for Winning Without War Signee
71. Carl Reiner Artists for Winning Without War Signee
72. Tony Shalhoub Artists for Winning Without War Signee
73. Julia Roberts
"The man's embarrassing. He's not my president and he never will be either"
74. Marcia Strassman Artists for Winning Without War Signee
75. Loretta Swit Artists for Winning Without War Signee
76. Natalie Imbruglia Artists for Winning Without War Signee
77. Lily Tomlin Artists for Winning Without War Signee
78. Heath Ledger
"It is a fight for oil and screw it "
79. Robin Williams
"He's like 'We have to get rid of dictators,' but he's pretty much one himself"
80. James Whitmore Artists for Winning Without War Signee
81. Alfre Woodard Artists for Winning Without War Signee
82. Noah Wyle Artists for Winning Without War Signee
83. Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream NION Signee/ANSWER $$ Backer
84. Dustin Hoffman
"I believe the administration has taken the events of 9/11 and has manipulated the grief of the country"
85. Richard Gere
"Bush's plans for war are a bizarre bad dream"
86. Spike Lee
"the German and French gov'ts should be commended"
87. Barry Pepper
"We're going to send our boys and girls overseas to kill -- and that's pretty sad."
88. Martin Scorsese Bush Bashing At Berlin Filmfest
89. Rosario Dawson
"I'm frightened by the patriotic mood sweeping the United States
90. Fred Durst & Pearl Jam Bush Bashers
91. Chryssy Hynde
"Have we gone to war yet? We deserve to get bombed. Bring it on. I hope the Muslims win!"
92. The Beastie Boys Anti-War Song During War
93. Dixie Chicks Need We Say More?
94. Viggo Mortensen NION Signee
95. Hugh Grant NION Signee
96. John Cougar Mellencamp Released anti-war song on website
97. George Michael Musicians United to Win without War Signee
98. Ani DiFranco
"It's hard to wake up every day with a feeling that you are ashamed of your country
99. Madonna NION Signee/Anti-War Video
100. Lou Reed Musicians United to Win without War Signee
101. Eric Benet Musicians United to Win without War Signee
102. Sandra Bernhard
"The real terrorist threats are George W. Bush and his band of brown-shirted thugs."
103. Renee Zellweger
Why are we going to war? I'm confused!!
104. Greg Germann Anti-War agitator
105. Jeremy Piven NION Signee
106. Peter Boyle
“I'm Afraid of Bush”
107. Robert Redford
Bush is pursuing a dangerous and self-defeating path... and Bush offers an absence of leadership...
108. Johnny Depp
"America is dumb"
109. Harrison Ford
"I regret what we as a country have done"
110. Richard Dreyfuss
Anti-Bush ad campaign
111. Al Pacino
Anti-Bush ad campaign
112. Bruce Springsteen
"It's time to impeach the president"
113. Ben Affleck
"The Bush administration has continued to push a dangerous right-wing agenda"

Source:


http://www.winwithoutwarus.org/
http://www.notinourname.net/index.html

A Public Apology and Denunciation of their Statements is Required
to be considered for removal from the list

Please forward this list to other Americans so that they can be made aware of who they are supporting when they go to the movies or the movie rental store.

Don't support those that abandoned America in her time of need.

[lakritze]

Once again you got it ack basswards...These are to good guys.The truth sayers,the people we should be listening to.I have heard what most of them had to say and I agee wholeheartedly. No apologies or denunciations necessary.Support America's need for a regime change...Before it's too late.

[Aqua]

Bush has a history of being able to raise lots of money and then not be able to manage a business. The same thing has happened with his Presidency. The country has the largest national deficit ever, yet Bush has set a new record for the most money raised for political campaigning. :rolleyes:

I'm gonna use this list... I think I'll start with renting a Martin Sheen flick....

[Irish]

Just so that people will know-"I" didn't get it backwards.This is a
reprint of the Pabaah website.If someone disagrees with you,it
doesn't make them wrong!That's why there are cars of different
colors.Everyone believes something different.It's also why this thread is called"Public Announcement".It is just information! Irish
P.S.Different strokes,for different folks!

[babybunny]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because certain "celebs" dont agree with the man that is President of our country doesnt mean we should send their comments to everyone under the sun like gossip. Celebs are people just as we are. What about when Clinton was in office? Imagine the comments that were said then from all kinds of people. People will always talk.. whats new?

[lakritze]

You or whomever originated this BLACK LIST is asking good people to pass it along.I think that is wrong.These people not only have a right to their opinion,but a responsibility to wake the American people up to the REAL dangers in our land.So you consider your self a conservative republican,well fine.But these people are far to the right of even you.They are FASCISTS man.Get real...Listen to something other then Fox 11 and Clear Channel.This is getting scarry for the rest of us........... P.S. I too have signed the NION Petition as well as Ramsey Clark's Petition th impeach Bush.I have signed up as a member and contribute money to the ACLU,Amnesty International,People United for the Separation of Church and State as well as others.

[Miss Behavin']

Scary. Very scary.

Shades of McCarthyism. *shudder*

[jseal]

Irish,

Don't sweat the small stuff...

...and that's 113 lines of small stuff.

Many people didn't like Clinton, many people don't like Bush. Don't be influenced by the Hollywood names. They're that same names that also failed to prevent the recall of their Govenor.

[seriousfun]

Considering the current state of this stupid war, I agree that these people are the real heros.

I will respectfully counter Irish's post with the following letter from NRA Blacklist:

Dear Member of the NRA's Blacklist:

I bring you nothing but good news.

With your help, simply by forwarding www.nrablacklist.com to your friends, we have accomplished so much. What we need now is for you to keep passing the NRA blacklist along to everyone you know. If you do, we will succeed. Here is why:

1) 25,000 Americans have joined the NRA's blacklist in just two weeks. Our initial goal was 10,000. Then we asked for 25,000; today we are raising that goal to 50,000. The NRA may have the backing of the gun industry, but we have the people. All we need to do is get people who care to speak up and join the blacklist. We will deliver our petition to Congress and insist that we be heard. That's how it works.

2) The media buzz is growing. News articles and columns are appearing across the country. Wayne LaPierre, the Executive Director of the NRA, not only admitted that the NRA has a blacklist but said on the "Today" Show what he hoped to achieve with the list: "Our members don't want to buy their songs, don't want to go to their movies and don't want to support their careers." What arrogance. Is he for real? We wonder: How does he intend to punish the doctors, children, mayors, seniors and others who are on the list?

3) Our advertising campaign is expanding. Today, we have a full page ad in the New York Times and yesterday we were in Variety, urging readers to sign up for the NRA's blacklist. The ads are working and helping us to raise money and visibility.

We will not stop until we stop the NRA. It is out of control.

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[Irish]

It's not countering my post,it is another"Public Announcement!
I hope my name is on that list!I'm an NRA member.Not for guns,
but to protect the Second Amendment.
Again,I will say,I'm NOT a Republican.My wife& I are registered independants. Irish
P.S.We have always believed in voting for the person that we like,
reguardless of the party!

[Oldfart]

I'm confused.

Is there some question about the right of people to have

differing opinions?

[jseal]

Oldfart,

I’d like to think not. That being said, one of the more unsatisfying aspects of contemporary democratic politics is the tendency of people to demonizing their opponents. That coarsening of the political discourse makes it, in my opinion, more difficult to address the large number of very real and very difficult issues with which humanity must come to grips.

Alas, America seems to be in the vanguard here. Then again, Americans are not known for their self-restraint.

[Irish]

OF---In the normal language,that means that you hit the nail on the head!(MY opinion) Irish

[Vullkan]

I have a few words for those that made this list...and they are not pleasant.

Yet for our current president I am very concerned for the future. I have been following closely what has been happening. Of late that has troubled my mind has been the consideration of developing Nuke bunker buster bombs and the possibility of nuclear testing. What causes me to fear is the acceptance that a "nuke" could be considered a battle field weapon. How soon would a "nuke" intended for deep earth penitration be considered for above ground us to destroy mobile formations?

The cancellation of the ABM treaty is another cause for concern and the insistant developement of "Star Wars" missile defense. Why would some third world power spend billions on developing the damn things and then many hundreds of millions more on a delivery vehical. It would make more sence for these countries to smuggle the things in to their targets and all the Darth Vaders atop orbiting Death Stars wouldn't matter for all the costs involved.

But of the current Iraq conflict--it was a fools trip made by the King of Fools. The military planning was near perfect--but the peace winning aspect leaves much to be desired. Sadly we have lost creditability with our own allies. In the future if a real threat comes along, just how supportive might they be to deal with a real threat? Now with North Korea we have but to hope that China of all countries will have to come to our aid top resolve this issue--anyone remember that little spy plane of ours that found its way on that Chinese island?

Granted many of these people mentioned in this list are flakes to be sure, but nevertheless had G. W. Bush listened to a few others outside his own inner circle our armed forces wouldn't be used for target practise this day.

All I can say is thank God I have no son--but as I sit here I weep in my soul for those whose sons live this nighmare now.

[PantyFanatic]

Originally posted by jseal
.....That coarsening of the political discourse makes it, in my opinion, more difficult to address the large number of very real and very difficult issues with which humanity must come to grips......
You say that as if you thouhgt he had the capability.:confused:










:rolleyes:

[ukjeeping]

I've been in the sand and prayed for the aircrews I launched into the night, and wept when one didn't return. 12 hours latter word was sent the plane had barely made it to safety with all alive. I've loaded flag draped coffins onto aircraft, and wept for someone's loss. I don't agree with some opinons, and remeber that all those who serve do so to portect our rights. Free Speech means to disagree sometime and even to burn/shit/ect. the flag I hold dear. Think of those lost and still over there

[Sugarsprinkles]

I really thought long and hard before deciding to respond to this thread. And defending it was certainly not my first impulse.

I disagree 100% with what Irish posted. I think it's patently unfair and un-American to attempt to blacklist those that have differing viewpoints. The McCarthy era is long gone, and good riddance to it!

I spoke my mind in the old thread about the Dixie Chicks. These performers are every much entitled to their opinions as Irish is. No matter how much we may disagree with either side.


I'm not sure to whom I should attribute this quote, but it goes something like this:

"I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I just hope that the younger members of Pixies don't lump all of us Baby-boomers or just-a-shade-older-than-Boomers into the same pot. We don't all think alike. We're all just as confused about what's going on in the world as everyone else, we've just had a longer time to pefect our confusion.

[Grumble]

I also agree that people are allowed to have an opinion and voice it.

For me the jury is still out on Bush, he certainly is a hawk not a dove and people certainly should speak out if they feel that there is something wrong happening.

Nazi germany would not have got going if the people stood up to be counted before Hitler assumed control and whilst I am not saying Bush is in any way to be compared with that crackpot, democracy is alive and well when people voice their opinions and are free to do so.

[Teddy Bear]

One of the many 'freedoms' of this great land of ours ..... and yes it is great!! ..... is the freedom of speech. Never silence those with different opinions because someday it may be you and no one will listen.

I didn't read the list closely but skimmed over it glancing at the names. Some I've never heard of. But number 78. Heath Ledger caught my eye. I'm pretty sure he's from Australia. Are we governing peoples opinions in other countries too??

[Lilith]

Originally posted by Teddy Bear
But number 78. Heath Ledger caught my eye. I'm pretty sure he's from Australia.

And terribly yummy;)

[Teddy Bear]

Originally posted by Lilith
And terribly yummy;)

VERY yummy indeed!!

[Casperr]

I'm boycotting this thread, just to make my point.

[Casperr]

Oh shit - did I just post that? CRAP!

[jseal]

Originally posted by pantyfanatic
...You say that as if you thouhgt he had the capability.

pantyfanatic,

Thank you for providing an example of the point I was making. Comments of this nature are often called "ad hominem", being directed against one's opponent, rather than remaining focused on the issues. They add little or nothing to the debate.

This particular one includes a common mistake: that democratically elected leaders rule by dictat, like a king or despot. By specifying an individual, you imply that that individual is the "one" to address the issue. This is obviously false. Both in the tripartite system of government we employ here in the States, as well as the parliamentarian governments in the UK, Canada, and Australia (to single out only three nations), power and responsibility are distributed beyond a clique or oligarchy - thank heavens.

If one honestly believes in personal freedom, then it is injudicious - extremely so - to damage the tool provided to maintain it. That tool is the political dialog, which is at least wasted and at worst damaged when misused.

The absolute nadir is exemplified by the ant-abortionists; who think that because they believe that because they believe in something so very much that they are entitled to kill someone else. These people are, in my opinion, indistinguishable from terrorists. I, for one, resent giving up any of my liberties to the organs of state in the name of national security; when it – the FBI in this case – “needs” these intrusive tools to pursue and interdict these “true believers”.

Ah well, there are no utopias…

[Irish]

I would like to ask a question,without starting an argument!
I now live in NH.We have Metrocast cable,because the town,
signed a contract,with them.(No Choice,if you want cable,you
MUST use Metrocast)lakritze,lives in Calif.,according to his avitar.
He has suggested,that I watch,something other than Fox 11 or
Clear Channel.What are they?We have ,at least,3 Fox channels:
1:Fox network2;Fox News3:Fox Sports.Those are the only Fox
stations,that I'm aware of.As far as Clear Channel,I never heard of it!What is it?I have heard that there is a Fox station,on the radio,but I don't know what the call letters are.Again,this is not to
be a wise-ass,I really don't know.My daughters(another town)have another cable provider.(Comcast?)When my wife or I,babysit
,we are completly lost.No TV GUIDE channel,so we just have to go
thru every channel.Theres,not much,worth watching,(my opinion)
anyway,but with hours to kill,you have to do something! Irish

[Sugarsprinkles]

Originally posted by jseal
I, for one, resent giving up any of my liberties to the organs of state in the name of national security; when it – the FBI in this case – “needs” these intrusive tools to pursue and interdict these “true believers”.

Ah well, there are no utopias…

This brings to mind a quote from Benjamin Franklin:

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety."

[Teddy Bear]

Oh man... its getting to the point where you need a Master's degree to understand some of these threads. Having no clear understanding of what jseal just said, all I can add is: "Why can't we all just get along?"

teddy :)

PS: Halloween party at my house!! No politics allowed...... Just good sex. omg, lets hope Fairy-bird doesn't read this. lol.

btw -- I give out the 'good' candy and great costumes get something 'extra'. So, I want everybody to kiss & make up, let this thread die and start partying.

I know this is serious stuff and shouldn't be swept under the rug, but there's No need to PM me & tell me I'm way off the mark or an air-head or whatever. It just seems this is not the place for this discussion and it's gone on long enough.

Now back to that # 78 Heath Ledger ..... can't we just think about him instead? mmmmmm..... no costume required Heath, just come on over.

[PantyFanatic]

Thank you for providing an example of the point I was making. Comments of this nature are often called "ad hominem", being directed against one's opponent, rather than remaining focused on the issues. They add little or nothing to the debate.

This particular one includes a common mistake: ......
I guess I provided more examples of what this is about than I was aware of at the time. And I did make a terrible PC error in using “he” in my query as to whether the specie, not an individual, is capable of addressing valid matters concerning it’s well-being and development, as opposed to it’s obsessions with internal conflict.

I apologize to jseal for my fauxpas and thank him for validating my premise of hupeopleities inability to look beyond itself.




(gosh, I hope that’s the proper new word:confused: )

[Teddy Bear]

'hupeopleities' isn't in my 1970 edition of Webster's.....

Guess I'll ask Santa for a new dictionary.

[Steph]

Originally posted by lakritze
Listen to something other then Fox 11 and Clear Channel.

Bahahaha!!! FOX almost sued itself! :D

Fox nearly sued itself over 'Simpsons' parody: Matt Groening
Wed Oct 29,12:28 PM ET

NEW YORK (AFP) - Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel threatened to sue the makers of "The Simpsons" over a parody of the channel's right-wing political stance, the creator of the hit US television show has claimed.
In an interview this week with National Public Radio, Matt Groening recalled how the news channel had considered legal action, despite the fact that "The Simpsons" is broadcast on sister network, Fox Entertainment.
According to Groening, Fox took exception took a Simpsons' version of the Fox News rolling news ticker which parodied the channel's anti-Democrat stance, with headlines like "Do Democrats Cause Cancer?"
"Fox fought against it and said they would sue the show," Groening said.
"We called their bluff because we didn't think Rupert Murdoch would pay for Fox to sue itself. So, we got away with it."
Other satirical Fox news bulletins featured in the show included: "Study: 92 per cent of Democrats are gay... JFK posthumously joins Republican Party... Oil slicks found to keep seals young, supple..."
While the lawsuit never materialized, Groening said some action was taken.
"Now Fox has a new rule that we can't do those little fake news crawls on the bottom of the screen in a cartoon because it might confuse the viewers into thinking it's real news," he said.
"The Simpsons," featuring the dysfunctional family of patriarch Homer Simpson and his rowdy brood, is now in its 14th year and is expected to become the longest-running situation comedy in US history in 2005.

[lakritze]

Irish,It seems that we are both experiencing a shrinking consolidation of the media.Do you have only one cable company to choose from? So do I.Aldelphia swallowed (not in a good way) up the smaller cable companies around here while that crooked Regis family was still ran it.Irony is the only competition is the DISH network.Fox 11 is KTTV channel 11 and Clear Channel is a company that has swallowed (Not in a good way) up most of the comercial radio stations from coast to coast that we listen to.Around here both have gotten the reputation as the official gov't news and propaganda stations. Both have become synonomous with giving one point of view and not providing any alternative views on a given subject.I have to ask,If there ever was a "liberal media" out there somewhere,where did it go? where is it now? It all seems to be run by the major corporations who's views are anything but liberal.I hope you never take what I write here as personal attacks,it is not my intention.But I feel I must challenge what is being said though.

[jseal]

Irish,

I think that what he is suggesting is that the Fox network has a distinctly limited range of coverage, and that you would benefit by including other news sources.

Permit me to suggest the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/), as that provides a non-American view of the world. Additionally it is very current and well written.


Pantyfanatic,

No apologies needed; it is possible for reasonable men to disagree. It is the incendiary statements which fly all too readily these days which I find distracting.

Teddy Bear,

I expose my ignorance: who is this Heath Ledger? Serious beefcake, I presume?


Steph,

Love it! One of the members here has a sig that goes something along the lines that it takes brains to appreciate parody but not to be offended by it. Fox proves the point.

[Irish]

lakritze---Thanks!No,we don't have a choice,in what Cable Co.
we get.The town signed a contract,with Metrocast,so it's the
only one,that anyone in this town,can get.One of my Sons-in-
laws,is an installer for Comcast.He is also,my workout(spotter)
partner & friend.I would much rather have his company because
if,he knows that it's for me,I get immediate service.Plus,his company truck,is stocked with everything,that could be needed on the road as he also troubleshoots.It's the same situation,with
the banks.The neighborhood banks have all been bought by the
giant Banks. Irish
P.S.I STILL have him check everything& do my wiring!

[Sharni]

RE: Heath Ledger....an an Aussie actor....starred in 10 things I Hate About You....A Knights Tale....recently in Ned Kelly (with Orlando Bloom *dreamy sigh*)

I stated my thought on this whole war thing in another thread

To be honest i dont believe this topic should be bought up here at Pixies.....we are a multicultural site and as such have a WIDE variety of differing veiws.....and we should respect all members input...politics is dangerous ground to be playing in ppl....not in humankinds lifetime will everybody agree with everybody else...so i think this thread needs to just be let go

So anybody want sex or ice-cream?? :D:D

[Lilith]

I will have chocolate...oops! I dropped some right here (points to her breast):D

a little help please;)


btw Sharni I hate vanilla but I'd lick it off you:p TY

[Sugarsprinkles]

How about sex-flavored ice cream???? :D:D:D

[Aqua]

A lady in need of assistance?

*licks the offending ice cream off your breast*

All better now?

[Lilith]

oops! my bad! points to a new drop lower:D

[Aqua]

*Licks even lower*

I think that's all of it... ;)

[jseal]

Originally posted by Sugarsprinkles

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety."

Sugarsprinkles,

Indeed so - yet we will always be called to balance our desires for personal freedom against the behavior of those who would, like the terrorists, seek to destroy what our country represents.

As the external threats to our nation increase, so will the calls for "temporary" powers to protect it.

[Lilith]

Originally posted by Aqua
*Licks even lower*

I think that's all of it... ;)

some how I have sat on my icecream cone:p

[jseal]

Sharniqua,

Heath Ledger... A Knights Tale

As in The Canterbury Tales?

[Sugarsprinkles]

jseal,

The trouble is, what is called "temporary" too often becomes permanent. Take income tax, for example. Once something is taken away, how often do we get it back??

[Aqua]

Originally posted by Lilith
some how I have sat on my icecream cone:p
Well, that is a predicament...

Bend over... ;)

[jseal]

Sugarsprinkles,

Yes mam. Few freedoms are free.

[WildIrish]

Is it too freudian for me to like banana splits?

[jseal]

WildIrish,

Not if you have Sugarsprinkles on top.

[Teddy Bear]

Sharni does it have to be sex OR ice cream? :)


*sits back to see where Lilith gets her ice cream next* :D

[WildIrish]

Originally posted by jseal
WildIrish,

Not if you have Sugarsprinkles on top.


Good catch! That certainly more than makes up for any appearance of impropriety!

Sugarsprinkles...would you do me the honors of climbing on top of my ice cream sundae? Mind you...there's bananas in there. Be careful where you settle.

[seriousfun]

Originally posted by Sharniqua
...
I stated my thought on this whole war thing in another thread

To be honest i dont believe this topic should be bought up here at Pixies.....we are a multicultural site and as such have a WIDE variety of differing veiws.....and we should respect all members input...politics is dangerous ground to be playing in ppl....not in humankinds lifetime will everybody agree with everybody else...so i think this thread needs to just be let go

...

Actually, this is the General Chat section, and Irish, misguided though he may be :p , has every right to post here and we have every right to discuss if we choose. Anyone not interested in the topic can ignore it. Are we wasting bandwidth here?

We may not be political scientists by trade or degree ( subsribe to the Conservative Listgroup at [email protected] if you want that), but we here have a unique perspective on some parts of life that may just enliven discussions about other parts of life.

And stop distracting us with your breasts on this thread. You know we're weak.

[Irish]

I have1:Personal Care Doctor 2: Diabetic Doctor 3: Eye Doctor
4: Dentist 5: Now I find that I have a Doctor,to tell me,that I'm
misguided.It's a good thing that I've got medical insurance! Irish
P.S.I think that,I forgot,to get a referral from my Personal Care Dr.
I hope that he is recognised by Anthem Blue,or the V.A.M.C.

[PantyFanatic]

I'll take two scoops of Part 2 of this thread.:p








...... and a silky napkin please.:lust:

[jseal]

WildIrish,

Sounds like a Kodak moment to me!

[Irish]

Sharni---Sorry,the fact that I'm diabetic,means that I should stay
away from sweets.Luckily,for me,sex is nothing new.At 59,even I,can't be interested in sex,24hrs a day.At my age,I have to limit it
to 23hrs! Irish
P.S.I'm supposed to check my blood-sugar,four times a day!I have
callouses(sp?) on the tips of my fingers,from testing & I rotate, the fingers,when testing!
P.P.S.I have to take care of the little "trick or treaters"now!My wife is helping my daughters & grandchildren,so that leaves me!

[Sharni]

seriousfun ~ I know what section this is sonny....i've been here a lot longer than you *LOL*

I have no problem with you discussing this issue....i just believe it should be done offlist...by email or instant messenger!!

As i said...we are a diverse group...and its not a matter of if...but rather when someone takes offence at another views that trouble will start

[lakritze]

On another subject...Baskin & Robbins 31 flavors (my favourite ice cream) used to have at this time of year Pumpkin (orange) and licorice ice cream (black as night) YYYUUMMMMMMM!!!!! I just made a quart of licorice ice cream using Anise extract and tried to get the black colour right but it came out looking gray.Oh well,it tasted good anyway.Next in line will either be cardamom or maybe mint.Would like to send you all samples...Whats your favourite ???????????

[Oldfart]

Seriousfun, they're still looking for the last person who

upset Sharni.

Do we have an inalienable right to choose our ice-cream flavour?

Seriously, the right to free speech carries with it the responsibility

to speak in a reasoned and reasonable manner. Slander, libel and

just general putting shit on people isn't free speech, just speech.

[jseal]

Originally posted by Oldfart
...the right to free speech carries with it the responsibility to speak in a reasoned and reasonable manner.

Oldfart,

Too true. Did you know that that was the first and only time in the 57 posts to this thread that anyone used the terms "slander", "libel", or "shit"?

[Sugarsprinkles]

Originally posted by WildIrish
Good catch! That certainly more than makes up for any appearance of impropriety!

Sugarsprinkles...would you do me the honors of climbing on top of my ice cream sundae? Mind you...there's bananas in there. Be careful where you settle.



I'd be honored, WildIrish!!























Bananas have always been my very favorite fruit!! ;);):D:D

[Oldfart]

jseal

Yes, I'm also trying to patent them, lol

[jseal]

Sharniqua,

I find myself in the most unusual position of agreeing with seriousfun.

Are you suggesting that because someone may disagree with what you have to say on some subject that they will take offense? Further, are you suggesting that because someone may take offense with what you say on some subject that "it should be done offlist...by email or instant messenger!!"?

Where then is your freedom to express yourself? Is your ability to articulate your opinions and beliefs to be sacrificed on the altar of someone else’s sensibilities?

We are on an adult web site, in a General Discussion forum. I would like to believe that adult issues – other than the baser ones – might be discussed without being subjected to the ire of those who have been here a lot longer that I.

[jseal]

lakritze,

I’m not so sure about cardamom, but I’ll bet the mint would be nice. I’ll admit that chocolate chip ice cream is my favorite.

[Sharni]

For the third time *sigh*

Can you not see where ppl will not agree on this....i have seen this sort of thing turn ugly...and members feel offended

Politics and religion are two things i believe should never be discussed here....they are far too touchy

might be discussed without being subjected to the ire of those who have been here a lot longer that I

I'm confused....What IRE have i subjected....i have not raised an angry word that i remember??....I'll have a please explain to that thank you!

You prattle on about freedom of speech...what a load of frogshit...it appears ok for you to have you opinion....but its not ok for me to state my thoughts...hmmmmm interesting

Back to ice-cream or sex (or both if preferred *LOL*)

[Lilith]

People are more than welcome to discuss things of all kinds on this forum whether it be politics, or how the site is being managed etc. as long as they do so respectfully. However Sharni is right when she speaks of threads like this having caused hurt feelings in the past. Recently we had another thread that caused many hurt feelings but everyone handled it with grace and dignity. I expect no less from this thread.

Repeatedly it has been the same few people who feel the need to discuss, basically this same topic, over and over. So how about you guys get it all off your chests and get it over with because frankly, I am bored with it. I am changing the title of the thread to reflect that it is in fact political so that people can choose to avoid it easier if they wish.

If this thread becomes personal or the posts become disrespectful it will disappear.

[Grumble]

I think this thread is interesting and like a TV channel, if you are bored with it or dont like it, dont go to it.

From what I have seen there has been no flaming, the most heated, if that is the right word, comments have been about whether we should be discussing this subject or not.

Luckily in pixies, it is very rare that threads get out of hand and the moderators are very diligent in making sure that it does not get out of hand, sometimes, in my opinion, a little too diligent LOL but I certainly respect them and support them, even if occassionally I do not always agree.

The diversity of opinions is healthy and interesting.

*Grumble steps down from the soapbox *

[jseal]

Originally posted by Sharniqua
For the third time *sigh*

Sharniqua,

I am sure that we agree that patience is a virtue.

You are probably right to opine that people will not agree on this. Freedom of speech has always been, is now, and always will be a hotly debated subject. I think you are quite wrong however, to suggest that such a debate is unsuited for a public forum. I believe that adults are up to the task.

As I recall, the traditional quote is “Politics and religion should be avoided in polite conversation.” As some of the thread participants seem comfortable expressing themselves using terms such as “shit” and “frogshit”, I believe that we may safely dismiss THAT allusion.

In re your quote from my post:

When I was a lad, oh so long ago, a women who expressed herself to me as knowing quite well where she was and at the same time referring to me as “sonny” and then Laughed Out Loud was commonly wagging her finger, usually scornful, and always admonishing me of the correctness of her position. She was also, usually, angry at me for whatever transgression she thought I was guilty of, and very definitely angry at me for daring to challenge her authority. Although it is possible that you and I do not share this perception, I suspect that many of the members here do share such memories, as I see such behavior commonly practiced today.

With this in mind, let us examine the first sentence in your post to seriousfun. I trust that you are satisfied with the explanation I have provided, and that you are no longer confused about what I had to say.

You are incorrect when you say that I prattle about freedom of speech. If you take the time to read my postings on the subject, I think you will find that they are neither foolish nor simple-minded. Freedom of speech is a complex subject which has engaged many of the best minds that humanity has produced. Some conversations on the subject are, by definition, more substantial than others. While I won’t presume to tell you that my opinions on the subject are valuable, I will go so far as to assert that you are entitled to your opinion, even if I do find it, at times, unnecessarily discourteous.

The allusion to hypocrisy towards the bottom of your post is inaccurate. If you take the time to read my postings on this thread, I’m confident you’ll understand that I firmly support the proposition that people should be able to say what they believe here and elsewhere. Your posting is a ringing (if somewhat antagonistic) affirmation of my position.

I happen to disagree with what you have to say on this subject. I think that the discussion should not be suppressed.

Lilith, thanks for the name change. That may help protect those who need it.

[PantyFanatic]

Yah Lil.:D Thanks for the protection. I need it as I'm going to clean my boots now and don't want to accidentally step in any more of this verbosity again.

[WildIrish]

I've found Ginger ice cream to be very refreshing. No cracks about Mary Ann, please. ha ha

[jseal]

WildIrish,

OK, I'll bite. What is the Mary Ann issue?

[Sugarsprinkles]

jseal,
You know............Gilligan's Island, Ginger......Mary Ann.......;) :D

[jseal]

Sugarsprinkles,

Oh. Yes. My aversion to TV comes back to bite me.

Speaking of which, as I recall, both Ginger and Mary Ann looked delicious.

[BIBI]

oh please...I am not defending communism in this post but I am trying to make my point...

There was a witch hunt in the 50's run by McCarthy and many innocent people were blacklisted, never to work again. Many were in the entertainment industry. Many had nothing to do with communism but even still once they appeared in front of the committee of Unamerican Activities they were blackballed. I am not going to say I agree or disagree with these celebraties but what I do say is this. They are entitled to their opinion on everything and anything just as we are.......
That public information announcement is a list nontheless "a warning" and a request to boycott someone for not holding the beliefs of the writer of the article. It is no better than propaganda and in saying all this I will shut up! Did I ever tell anyone the time I met Martin Sheen and................... LOL :)

[BIBI]

Originally posted by jseal



Ah well, there are no utopias…



LMAO.......it is obvious then that you have not been in my bed!!!(;)

[jseal]

BIBI,

Yes. Not only could it happen here, but it already has. Mr. Sheen and the other 112 people on that list have displayed a measure of courage by stepping out and saying what they believe in. Granted, some of what they actually said would have benefited by being rephrased, but nonetheless they had the courage of their convictions.

Free speech seldom comes for free.

Now as for utopia, now THAT is something to strive for!

[BIBI]

Originally posted by Aqua


I'm gonna use this list... I think I'll start with renting a Martin Sheen flick....

May I recommend...The Dead Zone, great movie..... for you would find me in that movie too :) He plays a senator in the running to be president........LOL I guess he finally made it! :)

[Lilith]

Originally posted by BIBI
May I recommend...The Dead Zone, great movie..... for you would find me in that movie too :) ... :)

BI BI, as in actually in the movie??? Where?

[jseal]

BIBI,

C'mon! Out with it!

[BIBI]

I worked as an extra for two weeks on the movie......I am there if you know where to look. It was an absolute blast. See I loved the book and the author, Martin Sheen was my teenage crush and Christopher Walken was one of my favorite actors at the time. I met them all and to tell you the truth they were the most down to earth people. In fact my friend told Sheen how I had had a bad case of teenage love for him and he took me out to lunch in Niagra on the Lake where most of the movie was filmed. It was just a case of fate for me meeting my faves of the time and I even got paid for something I would have done for free. It was an absolutely wonderful way to make a lasting life memory!

[Lilith]

Excellent!!!!!! What a wonderful experience.

This whole mess of a thread was worth it to get to that great story!

[jseal]

BIBI,

Way cool! I'll go rent a copy of The Dead Zone. Thanks!

[Sugarsprinkles]

Originally posted by jseal
BIBI,

Way cool! I'll go rent a copy of The Dead Zone. Thanks!

Don't have my VCR hooked up yet, but I'll watch for the next time it's re-run. I've never seen the original movie, but I sure do love the TV series.



Wow, to think..................................a real Genyyyyoooowine movie star in our midst!!!!!


YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

[lakritze]

I disagree.Politics and religion should be discussed,the more often the better.These are two issues that effect all of our lives. Could it be that the reluctance to discuss either lead to a more powerful fndamentalist view in religion and,well you know who now occupies the White House.In this country,we take for granted the freedom to include a good political dscussion for fear that it would turn ugly.But it wasn't the case in this forum.I for one don't have to resort to calling somebody a doo doo head just because I don't agree with his politics. Now pass some of that ice cream over here.

[Sharni]

Originally posted by jseal
[B]Sharniqua,

I am sure that we agree that patience is a virtue.
Yes it is...something which i'm quite good at thank you

You are probably right to opine that people will not agree on this. Freedom of speech has always been, is now, and always will be a hotly debated subject. I think you are quite wrong however, to suggest that such a debate is unsuited for a public forum. I believe that adults are up to the task.
I know i'm right....and like i said i'm only trying to help Pixies by keeping the peace...by knocking something on the head which can get out of hand.
Well you can think i'm wrong...i dont care...but i'm entitled to say my piece...i have not attacked your original opinion in any way.
As i've already said this type of conversation does tend to get heated and personal...as some replies have shown (ours included)

My original statement was not pointed at anyone...it was just that...my take on the thread! It was not I that made it personal...if my statement wasnt like....then ignore it...i was answering another member who queried what i said.....

As I recall, the traditional quote is “Politics and religion should be avoided in polite conversation.” As some of the thread participants seem comfortable expressing themselves using terms such as “shit” and “frogshit”, I believe that we may safely dismiss THAT allusion.
Still frogshit *LOL*

In re your quote from my post:

.....at the same time referring to me as “sonny” and then Laughed Out Loud was commonly wagging her finger, usually scornful, and

With this in mind, let us examine the first sentence in your post to seriousfun. I trust that you are satisfied with the explanation I have provided, and that you are no longer confused about what I had to say.
I was talking to seriousfun when i made the sonny comment...not you....i have as yet not seen a reply from him over the matter....i imagine he has done the right thing and chosen to ignore it
The whole scenario that you so graceiously thought of and supplied never even crossed my mind.....what i said i meant in fun...hence the *LOL* after it!...if i had of meant to be angry and nasty....believe you me...members have known it!!
You are incorrect when you say that I prattle about freedom of speech. If you take the time to read my postings on the subject, I think you will find that they are neither foolish nor simple-minded. Freedom of speech is a complex subject which has engaged many of the best minds that humanity has produced. Some conversations on the subject are, by definition, more substantial than others. While I won’t presume to tell you that my opinions on the subject are valuable, I will go so far as to assert that you are entitled to your opinion, even if I do find it, at times, unnecessarily discourteous.
Ok....I never said what you wrote was "foolish or single minded" so stop putting words into my mouth thanx....i also as you may recall do not have a problem with freedom of speech...the only problem i have is with the subject matter...as i have seen this type of thing get out of hand before....like i said earlier in this reply...i was only trying to protect the members from this happening again by changing the subject.

And others below what i posted chose to keep going with the original theme....the only reason i reposted was because i was specifically being spoken to...and i think its rude not to answer

And before i know it i'm getting barreled for being angry and rude and other 'frogshit' from another member whom for some reason read more into what i wrote than is there
I still...after reading and rereading my posts see where i warrent this
I happen to disagree with what you have to say on this subject. I think that the discussion should not be suppressed.
You are entitled to your opinion...you think it should stay...and i'm entitled to mine...i think it should go

The difference between us...i respect your choice...obviously from what i've just waded through....you do not repect mine

[Steph]

Originally posted by Sharniqua
Yes it is...something which i'm quite good at thank you


I know i'm right....and like i said i'm only trying to help Pixies by keeping the peace...by knocking something on the head which can get out of hand.
Well you can think i'm wrong...i dont care...but i'm entitled to say my piece...i have not attacked your original opinion in any way.
As i've already said this type of conversation does tend to get heated and personal...as some replies have shown (ours included)

My original statement was not pointed at anyone...it was just that...my take on the thread! It was not I that made it personal...if my statement wasnt like....then ignore it...i was answering another member who queried what i said.....


Still frogshit *LOL*


I was talking to seriousfun when i made the sonny comment...not you....i have as yet not seen a reply from him over the matter....i imagine he has done the right thing and chosen to ignore it
The whole scenario that you so graceiously thought of and supplied never even crossed my mind.....what i said i meant in fun...hence the *LOL* after it!...if i had of meant to be angry and nasty....believe you me...members have known it!!

Ok....I never said what you wrote was "foolish or single minded" so stop putting words into my mouth thanx....i also as you may recall do not have a problem with freedom of speech...the only problem i have is with the subject matter...as i have seen this type of thing get out of hand before....like i said earlier in this reply...i was only trying to protect the members from this happening again by changing the subject.

And others below what i posted chose to keep going with the original theme....the only reason i reposted was because i was specifically being spoken to...and i think its rude not to answer

And before i know it i'm getting barreled for being angry and rude and other 'frogshit' from another member whom for some reason read more into what i wrote than is there
I still...after reading and rereading my posts see where i warrent this

You are entitled to your opinion...you think it should stay...and i'm entitled to mine...i think it should go

The difference between us...i respect your choice...obviously from what i've just waded through....you do not repect mine

And this to me is the problem with political threads. This is Pixies - not a place for petitions or blacklists. People come here for fun & frivolity.

[Lilith]

I moved this thread to a storage bin so that I could review it and let cooler heads prevail, because things seem to be becoming heated and arguments directed more personally. This is a no flame forum and I do my best to help keep the atmosphere here such that no one wants to spoil the fun by engaging in heated arguments.

[LixyChick]

Was reading along and keeping the duct tape close by....and then I got to Lil's post and looked around...........

I ain't never been in a storage bin before! I gotta get outta here! I'm claustrophobic!

[Sharni]

LOL@Lixy

[Lilith]

Originally posted by LixyChick
Was reading along and keeping the duct tape close by....and then I got to Lil's post and looked around...........

I ain't never been in a storage bin before! I gotta get outta here! I'm claustrophobic!

I have always wanted to have my way with you in the janitor's closet and this was as close as I could get:D;)

[Oldfart]

BIBI, I'll also have to get out the video.

**NOTICE TO ALL**

If we have a "Pick BIBI" competition, maybe BIBI will offer a signed

nude picture for the winner,

I live in hope.

[BIBI]

LOL......you can live in hope all you want to :)

Just don't be holding your breath!!! ;)

[jseal]

Lilith,

In all sincerity, I am touched by your faith that the members can handle the issues. I am also embarrassed to admit that I expected you to not reinstate the thread.

Thank you.

[jseal]

Sharniqua

In your reply to my post, you mention, in regards to you post to seriousfun "...i imagine he has done the right thing and chosen to ignore it."

Out of respect to Lilith, and in gratitude for her reinstating the thread, I extend this choice to you:

1. I am willing to ignore your post.
2. I am willing to send my reply to you as a Private Message.
3. I am willing to post my reply in this public forum.

If you elect to not answer, I shall assume that you would prefer that I do the right thing and ignore it.

[Sharni]

jseal ~ Do whatever you feel the need to

[jseal]

Sharniqua,

I had hoped for an honest response. I should like to know how, or if, you would like me to reply.

[Sharni]

It was honest...again...do whatever you feel the need to

[jseal]

Sharniqua

Very well madam, as you have elected to not answer, I shall do the right thing and ignore your post.

[Irish]

If anyone wants to know what "McCarthyism" really was,allow me
to suggest the book "Treason" by Anne Coulter.I had my library,
get it for me & while it wasn't as informative as "Deriliction of Duty" by Robert Patterson Lt. Col.(RETIRED)USAF,it was good.
Irish
P.S. Like the list,this isn't mandatory,just a suggestion!

[Cheyanne]

I am glad that I live in a cave... lol

Now...... did I hear mention of ice cream??? :lust:

And BiBi... that is really cool info.. will have to rent that movie and keep the remote in my had to pause... :D :D

[Lilith]

Cheyanne I'd give you a lick of my cone but it's sort of smooshed:p

[jseal]

Irish,

Dude, you sure know how to keep a frank and candid thread alive!

But seriously, guy, in the context of the McCarthy era, whenever the Hollywood gliterati sees - or thinks they see - shadows cast in their direction, I find it understandable how they would have a knee-jerk response. It really was a threatening time when viewed from the Big Orange.

I can only hope that some day they will practice a more reasoned involvement with society. Just read Barbara Streisand’s comment: "How could such a destructive man be so popular with the American people?" The spooky thing is that she is entirely sincere! She, and most of her ilk, are so insulated from the America in which the other few hundred million people live that they don’t "get it".

Given their abilities of image making, this would be a powerful crew if they did function effectively.

[Steph]

Coulter? She's a right-wing columnist, not an expert on McCarthyism!
<sigh>

This link gives a good summary of some of the careers that were in trouble because of a paranoid, right-wing government who wanted to blacklist intelligent people who had differing views:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/mccarthyism.html

The names on that list, including Charlie Chaplin (!) are talented people, the same as the people on the list that originally started this thread.

I still like Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith even though they support the Bush government. I'm not going to not buy their albums. I'm open minded and get my information from a variety of sources.

[Irish]

Steph---No one said that she was an expert!Did you see the piece
on Toby Keith,the other night?My wife loves country music,so she
watched it.I think that it was-60 mins.11.Toby is one of her favorites!He has a" new"CD out.I think it's called Shock em-Y'll or
something like that! Irish
P.S.You're correct,if you read things from the R & L side,you can be truly open minded!Also,Anne Coulter,being a US citizen has a
right to free speech.

[Sugarsprinkles]

Originally posted by Steph
I still like Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith even though they support the Bush government. I'm not going to not buy their albums.


I like them too. But will still buy their CDs, as I will still buy The Dixie Chicks. And will continue to do so until I feel they've gone too far with their support or disagreement with the government.
That's the great thing about living in a democatic republic.....we're each free to express our opinion in our own way. At least for now, we are.

[Steph]

Originally posted by Irish
!Also,Anne Coulter,being a US citizen has a
right to free speech.

So why post a list of people to blacklist because they spoke out against the Bush government?

[Irish]

As I said before,it only lists the people,it is not mandatory!
Noone said that you HAD to blacklist them.Everyone has a free choice!I posted it because it was Public Information!Why did you
post that website?Because you felt like it! Irish

[Irish]

I'm not going to change your mind & you're not going to change mine,so let's just drop it.We're just wasting space! Irish

[Sugarsprinkles]

If we aren't careful, this thread will find it's way to Lil's "Storage Bin" permanently.







Let's each of us go to a neutral corner of our sandbox and play nice, or we'll be proving that we CAN'T handle a discussion of this type like adults. I'd like to believe that we can.

[Oldfart]

I suspect that the original thrust of the thread has been thrust.

BIBI, (sniff, deep heartbroken sigh) does this mean that the

signed naked picture is not happening?

[jseal]

BIBI,

I’ve already rented a hall for the occasion! Tell us it ain’t so!

[BIBI]

Well...........................Oldfart and jseal,



let me think on it a while!

I'll get back to you guys. ;)

[jseal]

Teddy Bear & Lilith & Sharniqua,

Hey! It is "A Knight’s Tale" – sorta! It has NOTHING to do with the story of the same name from The Canterbury Tales, but it does "point back to" it!

And yes, Mr. Ledger is "easy on the eyes", as my daughter says.

[Sharni]

Yep

[jseal]

Sharniqua,

Well, I defer to the female judgement on matters of this nature.

[Teddy Bear]

jseal you crack me up! The last mention of Heath Ledger was waaaaay back..... like page 3! Guess it was on your mind. Funny how the mind works and what things stick with us. :)


Originally posted by jseal
Sharniqua,

Well, I defer to the female judgement on matters of this nature.


btw, I don't think there's anything wrong with a guy commenting on another guys looks. So go watch a Heath Ledger movie with your daughter and let me know what you think. :D (How old is your daughter?)

[Steph]

Even dead people know Heath is yummy!

[jseal]

Teddy Bear,

Jennifer is 17... going on 32. The waters of life are a mite choppy these days.

I have no taboo about saying a guy is handsome, but to do so in front of my not-so-little princess is to invite a 10-minute lecture as to how he is HOT - not handsome Daddy! How would YOU know when a guy is hot? Is there something you want to tell us?
Etc. etc. etc.

[Cheyanne]

Originally posted by Lilith
Cheyanne I'd give you a lick of my cone but it's sort of smooshed:p

I don't mind.. as long as I can lick it slowly... hmmmmmmm, kinda wrap my tongue around it and......... ;) ummmmmmmmerrrrrrrrrr.. what kinda ice cream was it Lilith???

[Teddy Bear]

ROFLMAO!!!

jseal.... I sit here with tears of laughter because I know exactly what your going through!! Just one of the many joys of having a daughter. I have a 17 1/2 yr old princess. I also have a lovely 22 yr old daughter. (Have to be careful what I say about her, she's a member of Pixies & will kill me if I bad mouth her. lol) Trust me the choppy waters of life you mention do not go away when they're no longer teens, they're just caused by other issues. But for all the pain-in-the-ass times or the worried-to-death times or the just plain 'ole geez-I-could-strangle-her times, there's just nothing in the world as special as your little girl. Somehow we'll survive!! Stay strong jseal. lmao. And I still wanna know what you think of Heath Ledger. :)


Steph,,,, instead of saying 'I see dead people', do they say 'I see Heath'? :D

[Lilith]

Originally posted by Cheyanne
I don't mind.. as long as I can lick it slowly... hmmmmmmm, kinda wrap my tongue around it and......... ;) ummmmmmmmerrrrrrrrrr.. what kinda ice cream was it Lilith???

*thud* what ice cream??? :slurp:

[jseal]

Teddy Bear,

While not a Heath Ledger film, I did sit through "What a Girl Wants", which includes Colin Firth and Amanda Bynes. As by now you can probably tell, this is not a film which I would seek out. Fortunately, I need not worry about that, as Jennifer has that under control.

Mr. Firth is a very handsome man indeed. I do recall seeing him in a production more to my taste, "Pride and Prejudice", in which he played the character of Mr. Darcy. Gogeously shot, and very faithfull to the novel. Very faithful, that is with the exception of the scene in which Mr. Darcy, thinking himself alone, dives into the pond near his estate and thereby provides Elizabeth Bennet and her companions with a wet-t-shirt-competition image. Very clever and, no doubt added immensly to the legions of Firth teeny boppers, but pure Hollywood.

[Oldfart]

BIBI.

Still thinking?

jseal probably wanted to know to lol

[Teddy Bear]

jseal,

I'm surprised my daughters haven't brought this movie home yet.

If this Colin Firth is as hot as you say, it's only a matter of time before we own every movie he's ever been in. lol.

[jseal]

Oldfart,

Yes sir, I am. Eagerly.

[Lilith]

Originally posted by Teddy Bear


If this Colin Firth is as hot as you say, it's only a matter of time before we own every movie he's ever been in. lol.

it's the other Colin, Farrell I think is dreamy:D

[jseal]

Ladies,

I would not presume to be competent to judge such a glamour tourney.

[Teddy Bear]

Colin Farrell....???

Drawing a blank. Where would I know him from?

[Lilith]

He has that sexy skanky feel like Depp:slurp:

[seriousfun]

Originally posted by Oldfart
Seriousfun, they're still looking for the last person who

upset Sharni.

...

If I upset her, she can spank me! In fact, she can spank me anyway :)

Mods do have absolute control over their forum, and we should all respect that in any forum. I was just expressing an opinion about how this thread should be handled.

Also, I've seen disrepect and ad hominem attacks on other forums, and we haven't even begun to reach the depths here that some of those have.

[Lilith]

Originally posted by seriousfun
...Also, I've seen disrepect and ad hominem attacks on other forums, and we haven't even begun to reach the depths here that some of those have.

Nor will we;)

[jseal]

Teddy Bear,

Mr. Firth actually has a decent filmography, most of which I have not seen, but "Lost Empires" and "A Month in the Country" are both period pieces, and in the later he plays a tortured soul reminiscent of Darcy, but rather more humble.

[PantyFanatic]

I hope there is a way that ALL poster from this thread can find a transcript of Andy Rooney’s comments on 60-Minutes tonight.:)




(Weekly American TV show):rolleyes:

[Sugarsprinkles]

I agree, PF..........his editorial tonight was priceless!!! :D

[Steph]

The Bush speech writer one?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/31/60minutes/rooney/main581171.shtml

[Sugarsprinkles]

Thanks Steph, but that was last week's editorial. Tonight he was talking about the responses he got to that one.

[rabbit]

Been watching this thread for awhile now...I have a few things to add....

Firstly, just so you all know my political persuasion, I will disclose that I am a Republican though a centrist one.

I believe that the President had a responsibility to the security of the Country to act against the Saddam regime. We tried diplomacy for over a decade. IT DIDN'T WORK. Everyone needs to accept that fact and not deny it.

I am a man of peace but enough is enough. The time had come to act. The difference (in this matter) between George W. Bush and Bill Clinton is that Bush had the backbone (along with our British and Australian brothers and sisters) to make a difficult decision while all Clinton could manage to do was lob a few cruise missiles at Saddam. Bush did the right thing.

War is a dirty business but sometimes a necessary one in a world where some have no respect for life (Saddam, Osama, et al)...

As for those who disagree with the war, I also invoke Abraham Lincoln and "defend their right to say it". I'll even hold the microphone for them! :)

Will I "blacklist" the folks on Irish's list? Well...only two. The Dixie Chicks (because of what that lead singer bitch of theirs said AND WHERE SHE SAID IT was flat out un-American) and Julia Roberts (for once calling all Republicans "repugnant"...something I took personal offense to...talk about intolerance).

Finally, a kind word for all fellow Pixies people who post this thread...heed Sharni's counsel and be civil...next to Sharni I am probably the most tenured person who's posted this thread and I've seen what these things can turn into. I will not hesitate to support any Moderator (or Moderatrix... :p ) who sees fit to grease anyone who steps across the line.


...picking up my popcorn box and returning to my seat.




rabbit

[Lilith]

*reaches in your lap to get some popcorn, fishes around in the bag a bit* 'hey, how'd that get in there?':D * tugs on it a little*:D:D;)

[seriousfun]

Originally posted by Lilith
Nor will we;)

trust me, we all respect a mod who rules with a...whip

[Irish]

Rabbit---While I mostly agree with what you say,you forgot Jane
Fonda(Hanoi Jane)on your list!I have many ex-POW friends,that
would PERSONALY,like to extend their thanks to her,for making their
POW stay,so much more enjoyable! Irish

[rabbit]

Originally posted by Lilith
*reaches in your lap to get some popcorn, fishes around in the bag a bit* 'hey, how'd that get in there?':D * tugs on it a little*:D:D;)

:eek: :p


Care for seconds?

;)



rabbit

[rabbit]

Originally posted by Irish
Rabbit---While I mostly agree with what you say,you forgot Jane
Fonda(Hanoi Jane)on your list!I have many ex-POW friends,that
would PERSONALY,like to extend their thanks to her,for making their
POW stay,so much more enjoyable! Irish

Yeah, you're right Irish...she goes on the list too. Again, OK to state your beliefs but when you cross the line the way she did, that's just pure treason.

rabbit