Well..she has no real problem GETTING me close...she just seems to always stop and get pissed as soon as she gets there...And she has NO problem hitting the stops..so who knows...

Well, now, it's gotten so complex that I don't even understand anymore... but I think it's a great idea to hold off on sex, and just please each other manually and/or orally until you both are comfortable with it... which leads to another idea... maybe she doesn't want to get you off, because then she'd have to let you lick her off, then she might get carried away and want you inside her, and then... well, as you say, who knows...

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hehe...she has NP w/ me going down on her...Im thinking its prolly a combo of stress, and wanting to get off. Oh well...it will happen once..and then again,and again!

hi, i am the infamous girlfriend..............I guess i just want to explain why i am sooo upset about this. I love nic very much, and i'm the kind of person who isn't happy unless the person i'm with is happy. I'm a big pleaser and I take it as a sign that i'm not doing what i should be if he isn't getting off. I want our relationship to have a great give/take balance, and i feel like i am taking too much when this happens. I have been with very selfish guys before, who want to make sure that they get theirs before i get mine, so being with a sweet, caring guy who doesn't care is a big change for me. I want to try, and believe me, we will try all of the things that you have suggested, especially the not stressing out ones thanks for all of your help, and keep it coming!! we appreciate it.

Katebabe, pleased to make your aquaintence, nic's told us so much about you Appears to me your intentions are good, my advice is don't take it personally when he doesn't respond the way you want, and keep practicing! No one starts out being good at oral sex, you're both young, so just relax & enjoy yourselves... he's not keeping a scorecard, & neither should you... sounds like you two have the makings of a wonderful relationship here, I wish you the best... & let us know when you do make him cum! (note I say "when", not "if")

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hehe...funny you said something about a score card. Thats been her an my lil joke. We have tally marks on my wall...it started off cuz I wanted to know how many times we have "messed around" and turned into..Who won that night. Myself Im just happy to "please" her...I just HOPE (Kate) that things are understood..and Scotz SHE IS good at oral! (hehehe) Just have to wait a lil..C ya!

Guess I should have qualified that statement, too... no such thing as "bad" oral sex... didn't mean to imply that she isn't good, if she likes trying to please you, then it's all good... just saying it takes lots of practice to get "really good" at oral... and that goes both ways... sex, like life, should be about the journey, not the destination...

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Tru tru...and let me say this...she knows what shes doing..just cant do it long enuff! hehe

Well...tonite the prob was fixed..and about 10 sec B4 her mom walked in the room! So...thnx for the advice, and ya know what..keep it coming...we need ideas for more fun! Thnx a mill!

wooo hooooo!! It finally happened!! (even with my brother in the next room, and my mom walking in the door hehe) I got him off on a hand job, and may i say........I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!!! and i think he did too. hehe Now, we still have a ways to go with the Oral thing, but this is a great start!!! Keep the encouragement coming, lord knows i need it!

Congratz Kate and Nic!! This will only lead to more wonderful things... just be sure and play it safe! WooHoo!!

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That's great news, kidz... I knew you both could do it, was it the danger of getting caught factor that pushed you over the top? Whatever, congrats, and keep us up to date on the oral...

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Not really Scotz..I was coming and her bro yelled..MOMS HOME..and then I was like.."OH SHIT! Kt get me some paper towels ASAP!" and then we kinda laffed about it later...
NOTE TO ALL....dont eat gummie bears afterwords..they start to kinda smell/taste like what you had ur hands in/on...and if you do...give some to some one you dont really like and laff at em! hehe

Congrats and big smooches all round!
Wishing you lots and lots more fun
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Thnx. Man to think..I have 16 posts and people CARE about what used to be a problem! I love this place!
<me>cries</me> Its such a happy place! hehehe
Now, to find a way to make it so ppl really want to TALK to me..hmm..only time (and a sign of god) can do that one!